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Copyright infringement ignored .

Journal Entry: Wed May 20, 2009, 11:33 PM
DeviantART makes sure artists can feel safe on this site. They make sure there are copyright notices with every piece of art. They have an easy-to-access system for reporting art theft, and I see often how stolen artworks are removed from where they don't belong.

DeviantART also understands that journal skins are works of art. If you browse the new category of "installable" journal skins and try to install one of them, you will notice the extra agreement that pops up. Where else does deviantART have extra agreements? This extra agreement says clearly these three things:

"3. You agree that the author responsible for the Skin Content will be credited by deviantART when you use the Skin Content.
4. You may modify the Skin Content as and when you use the Skin Content in accordance with this Agreement, but not otherwise. You may not represent the Skin Content, even as modified, as your own work without crediting the original author.
5. You may not grant permission to any other person to use the Skin Content, even as modified..."

That is why these latest events upset me.

I understand that copyrighting code is a delicate matter. I understand that chances are high that two complete strangers might accidentally write the exact same piece of code just by coincidence. I understand that there are few variations available when writing CSS for deviantART journals, because the users are very limited in what they can do both in terms of what HTML the users are allowed to affect, and in terms of size restrictions due to the journal only being a small piece of the whole website. I understand that the amount of code involved in one journal may not be impressive enough to warrant copyright. I do understand this.

A very helpful deviant has been offering free journal templates for years. She has coded entire journals for winners of design contests. She has allowed these winners to offer these designed (and now coded) journals for free usage, with a simple mention of her in the description. All good this far. This free journal template in particular was even generously licensed under Creative Commons by-nc-nd, which means anyone can use this as long as they do do not edit it or make money off of it, and give credit to the original authors.

When someone, two years later, takes this code, changes the background image, and redistribute it as another free journal without even the slightest credit to anyone, something is wrong. I have looked at the code for both of the two journals skins, and they really are identical (except for a few minor details, such as the font-family used). Identical down to the very last pixel in margins and paddings and sizes. Identical in the order of which the code is written, row by row. Identical even in multi-browser compatibility tricks.

The helpful deviant contacted this thief, and asked them to put credit where credit is due. After much hassling, the thief finally put a credit in the description - to the design artist. No mention at all about whoever coded the journal. No mention at all that they hadn't coded the journal themselves. They even kept the line in the description saying Just to let you know, this is 100% Free for all to use. So the helpful deviant reports this with the report function. Because we all know deviantART cares about their artists and makes sure we're all protected against thieves.

Because they do, right..?

The report came back two days later (yesterday). They call the report "invalid". The case is now closed. No motivation anywhere, just that one single word. Invalid.

Invalid.

Journal CSS by `nokari

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:iconbanana-tree:
that's frustrating :/

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:iconzachriel:
It is. :hmm:

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:icontrezoid:
just read the same thing from zikes.

Maybe we need a Code GM, or a specialist Code C&E person :B

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:iconzachriel:
They should definitely have a C&E person who knows code. It's just ridiculous that they'd completely ignore this like they did.

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"It is not who you are underneath, but what you do that defines you."
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:iconshrig32:
is css even copyrightable? :O
:icontrezoid:
yup.

And thats why gratuitously commenting your code is good. especially in line comments ;) (eg: Border-left-width/*so...mudkips ayy. I herd you liek them*/: 3px ;

your average no credit code thief will just change what they need changed, and more then likely won't read ever line of code...also, making your code a jumbled mess, while unfair on people reading it to learn, prevents theft.

:P

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You can praise them, disagree with them, quote them, disbelieve them, glorify or vilify them.

About the only thing you can't do is ignore them. Because they change things.
:iconzachriel:
If complicated enough, it is.

Unfortunately dA journal CSS will probably never reach that amount of complicated.

But they can still stick to their own guidelines and values. Based on that extra agreement I'd say they really do care about these things. :| Leaving it "invalid" with no action taken whatsoever is just.. It's like saying you could never ever eat meat, and then you take a big bite from your double hamburger.

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"It is not who you are underneath, but what you do that defines you."
Quote from Batman Begins.
:iconzachriel:
Unfortunately they've disabled comments in dA CSS. You get errors if you try to add comments. :roll:

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"It is not who you are underneath, but what you do that defines you."
Quote from Batman Begins.
:iconshrig32:
Well, they broke their own terms- so what just happened is definitely wrong. =)

Also, you can copyright a likeness, so if the theme looked very similar then it's still definitely infringing.

Also, if the code is largely the same including the order things are in, then I guess there's no argument really. Especially if they're both from the same site with the same application in mind. Invalid my ass. Try reporting it again?
:iconzachriel:
Reporting it too much too soon might just make them annoyed and label it invalid just for the heck of it. I'll give it some time and then make a report they can't ignore.

I'm not sure whether or not it would be applicable as a likeness infringement. The layout elements such as the placement of the menu and journal body and the mood area are at the same places, but the picture is completely changed. I think that would be too much of a stretch.

And to be completely fair, the new agreement is from just a few weeks ago, this CSS was stolen from a 2007 deviation when the agreement wasn't applied.

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"It is not who you are underneath, but what you do that defines you."
Quote from Batman Begins.

Journal History

Features wishlist

Quick summary.
:bulletgreen: Explanation.
:bulletyellow: Optional subfeatures.
:bulletblue: Taken care of!



Message Center noises.

:bulletgreen: I want a simple noise when I have new messages in my message center.

:bulletyellow: The user decides what messages makes a noise.

:bulletyellow: The user decides what noises to make (wave files). If not possible, then at least give us a few different choices.



dAmn activity noises.

:bulletgreen: I want a simple noise when things happen on dAmn.

:bulletyellow: The user decides what kind of activity generates a noise (join/part, highlight, talking).

:bulletyellow: The user decides what noises to make (wave files). If not possible, then at least give us a few different choices.

:bulletyellow: Customizable which rooms will generate a noise, for each type of activity.

:bulletyellow: If possible, also customizable what room makes what noise.

:bulletblue: dAudible, dAlert



Browse a GM's DDs.

:bulletgreen: When I browse a Gallery Moderator's favs, it would be great to see what Daily Deviations they have awarded. It would be useful when trying to figure out whom to send the DD suggestion to - is it this GM's style to DD this kind of picture?



More customizable devwatching.

:bulletgreen: I want to watch a deviant for a certain kind of art only. As it is now, we can only pick between Deviations and Scraps, but I'd want to watch someone for their Photography or their Literature or their Vector Art, etc.

:bulletyellow: On/off for polls.

:bulletyellow: On/off for news.

:bulletyellow: On/off for favs. (Yes, I want to watch some deviants' favs).

:bulletyellow: On/off shoutboxes.



User based featuring.

:bulletgreen: Lots of deviants feature other artists in their journal - I say that should be done in a separate system, a DD like system with captions, and other deviants can decide whose features to watch. Similar to watching someone's favs, only this system allows for featuring one artist with several thumbs in one feature, as well as adding motivations.

:bulletyellow: Featured artists will get a message in their message center with the feature, as if they were watching the deviant who featured them.



Enhanced message center sorting.

:bulletgreen: Recently having 1,000 new messages in one day, I found a flaw in the message center. I'd want to be able to sort incoming messages by person, so I can see right away if this new watcher also faved or commented, without having to plow through hundreds of messages.

:bulletyellow: Sort by item, so all favs for a certain deviation ends up separated from the favs of another deviation. Comments on one journal separated from comments on another journal.



dAmn logs.

:bulletgreen: Readable chat logs of the chatrooms I've been in. Only for when I was actually there.

:bulletyellow: Chat logs could be permanently stored on dA's servers (so that they won't be saved once for every person who was there - duplicated data is never good), and deviants would get access to the logs based on the times they join or leave a room.

:bulletyellow: Chat logs formatted in a way that I can just do copy/paste into my journal and the journal will display it as-was.

:bulletyellow: A chat log module for user pages. Our own personal dAmn.it so we can share the best moments of dAmn with our visitors.



dAmn wikipedia links

:bulletgreen: Everything surrounded by [[ and ]] automatically turns into wikipedia links.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/word

Forum

So... 

48%
32 deviants said Sex.
37%
25 deviants said Gaming.
15%
10 deviants said Chatting.

Are my journals too long? 

53%
21 deviants said Whatever girl, it's your journal and your choice.
18%
7 deviants said What?! They're too short!
13%
5 deviants said Some of them are, yeah.
10%
4 deviants said I have another opinion and you'll never know what.
5%
2 deviants said Yes, I can't be bothered reading the long ones at all.
3%
1 deviant said I have another opinion and I will comment.

Does it bother you that my emoticons are at a different account? 

58%
26 deviants said No.
22%
10 deviants said Huh? You make emoticons?
20%
9 deviants said Yes.

If I were to update my journal several times one day, what would you prefer? 

47%
16 deviants said Notify the watchers.
41%
14 deviants said DON'T notify the watchers.
12%
4 deviants said Other, comment.

What are you watching me for? 

31%
11 deviants said I like pie
23%
8 deviants said Something else (please comment)
20%
7 deviants said Your journal
14%
5 deviants said Emoticons (wrong account, silly)
9%
3 deviants said Pixel art
3%
1 deviant said Vector art
0%
No deviants said Photography
0%
No deviants said Poetry
0%
No deviants said Other art (please comment)

Do you like dAmn? 

43%
19 deviants said Yeah :D
23%
10 deviants said Of course :o
23%
10 deviants said dAmn? :confused:
11%
5 deviants said Nah, not really :shrug:

Are you happy? 

64%
28 deviants said Yes.
36%
16 deviants said No.

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